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Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:17:18 -0400, Steven
wrote:
Not Verizon here -- "former SNET land" means AT&T, just like for you.
Think it's really "not getting the SS7 data"? or just not bothering
to pass it along?
And yes, our cellular carrier, like yours, is *not* AT&T (unlike yours,

Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
Exactly.
It depends. The battery bank is mostly buffer to provide clean power
and bridge the generator, but it does have a few hours of standby all
by itself.
Good guess, yep. Ask any CO engineer, and they'll tell you a story how at
some point they vaporized some piece of equipment (socket wrenches are

Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
Well yeah, but I was answering in one sentence. *

Re: [telecom] Walmart changing phone system after abuse
In article
,
Presumably the change is something modern like requiring a PIN to be
entered.

Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
Except that the CO switch can be programmed to know what range of
numbers is assigned to the PBX, and to substitute the main number if
the CLID is out of range. Some telcos actually do that, some don't.
R's,
John

Re: Worldwide weekend of free WiFi with Skype Access [telecom]
You can get Skype wifi phones that look similar to normal cordless
phones. I know people who use them as their primary phones.
R's,
John

Re: Worldwide weekend of free WiFi with Skype Access [telecom]
Amongst my clients and acquaintances who have contacts in other
countries, Skype is very popular. Not just individuals, but small
organizations that have offices in other countries. And most of these
are not people I'd call "early adopters", some of them have needed a
little help getting it set up, even though it's very easy to set up.

Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
Some tariffs are a requirement of the regulator but some tariffs are
initiated and filed by the carrier, then approved by the regulator.
For example, so far as I know, most calling features are (were in the
case of California) offered under LEC-initiated tariffs.
I don't know which type of tariff the feature group trunk for PBXes is;

Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
tlvp wrote:
Sounds like Verizon is not getting the SS7 data. I have a problem like
that with a friend from UC Riverside, his office phone does not show CID
to my home phone with AT&T but comes through fine on my Sprint Cell phone.

Re: Worldwide weekend of free WiFi with Skype Access [telecom]
I have a friend who lives in Japan who uses it to call the U.S. She was
here recently and used my Vonage. She prefers my Vonage but doesn't
want to deal with the issue of a telephone and the adapter. Plus, I
guess Vonage costs more and she is counting her pennies.

Re: [telecom] Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
.......
It is basically asking if all the worldwide telephone networks talk to
each other according to the standards - it seems from other answers that
they do (makes the electronic wire taps easier, I suppose......)
- -
Regards, David.
David Clayton
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a

Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
Interesting: here in former SNET land, inbound calls from Poland to
our land-line *never* show any CLID, but inbound calls to our
cell-phones always *do*.
Cheers, -- tlvp

Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
Typical parking lights are rated 8-15 Watts, hence take an Ampere or so,
plus or minus 30%, and a set of four will drain about 4 Amps. Over 6 hours,
that'd be roughly 25 AH, which is "nothing" to a 300 AH-rated battery.
Right: a headlamp's low beam filament will consume about 7 A (or at
least the one I have fed by a metered automotive battery charger, to

Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
My understanding is that the LEC expects the PBX to supply the CID
because of the class of trunk that is provisioned for the PBX. Thus,
the LEC is a party to any spoofing.
***** Moderator's Note *****
I don't think that's a valid analogy: after all, the LEC expects
telephone users to be responsible, but accepts any number they

Worldwide weekend of free WiFi with Skype Access [telecom]
Worldwide weekend of free WiFi with Skype Access
Peter Parkes
March 17, 2010
To celebrate the full launch of Skype Access, we're offering you free
WiFi access at over 100,000 hotspots worldwide this weekend (20-21
March 2010).
...
[link]
***** Moderator's Note *****

Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
Repeat the above 20 times and be sure to wear frontal protection including
a face mask (as would be used in a machine shop) and rubber gloves. :-)
Seriously, my and 1000s of thousands of others' experience attempting
to use an auto battery for powering laptops and computerized scopes
over the course of a night shows the folly of continuing to do so --

Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
Yes, a car battery will work fine as a backup power source. Once.
A deep discharge will permanently damge the battery. You can recharge
it, but its capacity is now permanently reduced. Do it again, and you
further damage it and further reduce the capacity.
If it's a one-shot you're looking for and then turn in the battery

Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
I recall several articles describing battery research and development
in the old Bell Laboratories Record, during its last decade of
publication. I realize that's not much of a pointer, but if there's
an index of them maybe that provide some information. I do recall
that they considered everything about a battery, even the case (which

Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
+---------------
....
+---------------
Bill, battery management is a complex issue. For an in-depth answer to
your question, I refer you to the lead-acid sections of the excellent
<[link]> resource, especially the sections
mentioned below. But the main disadvantage of "typical car batteries"

Re: [telecom] Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
There was an examples of that in Oklahoma where Oklahoma City and
Tulsa and a few, I believe seven, CDOS were the only places with dial
service. After World War II, when equipment became available some
years after the end of the war, there was a big push to convert
eveything to dial. Most of the new dial exchanges went in with DDD,

Re: [telecom] Walmart changing phone system after abuse
In a message dated 3/19/2010 3:39:10 PM Central Daylight Time,

I seem to recall that there were Bell tariffs providing specifically for
terminals to attach the customer's paing system.

Wes Leatherock
wesr...@aol.com
wleat...@yahoo.com
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Re: [telecom] Waiting for Verizon [TELECOM]
In a message dated 3/19/2010 3:32:06 PM Central Daylight Time,
In Message-ID <9131e.79352b52.38d42...@aol.c om>, Wes Leatherock asks:

Noting the "ECS" in the segment above reminds me that the manhole
covers were cast with the letters "E C S C Ltd."

Wes Leatherock
wesr...@aol.com
wleat...@yahoo.com


Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
In a message dated 3/19/2010 3:10:37 PM Central Daylight Time,

I have several sets of that age (mostly Trimline) in my house and
certainly do not want to replace them. I have looked for what is
available today and they are neither as technically satisfactory nor
as sturdy nor as well engineered for human factors as the sets of that


Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
In article ,
Would it be a bit more accurate (though much more wordy) to say that a
VRAD is a collection of optical and electronic equipment, typically
housed in a refrigerator-sized enclosure, that detects the multichannel
optical signals coming in on an optical fiber, splits the channels

Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
In article ,
The PBX can supply the CID for the outgoing call. This is one way to
spoof the CID.

Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
">> However, this brings up a good question: are car batteries suitable
">> for use in _any_ backup service? Despite their shortcomings, their
">> price/performance ratio might justify the compromises.
">
"> Not really, no. They are designed for a quick jolt of huge current and
"> then lots of quiet time. It's like using a sprinter for a marathon.

Re: [telecom] Walmart changing phone system after abuse
The fact it is a felony in N.J. is downright scary.

Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
That represents progress, for certain.

Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
The few folks who call me from PBXes deliver the company's listed
(primary) number.

Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
.......
No, not unless you want things that no longer will be available in the
other formats because the infrastructure for providing those formats has
been deemed uneconomical and has to make way for the newer ones.
My point is that for all the newer technologies that *might* work on well
kept legacy plant, should we have an expectation that all this old

Re: [telecom] Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
In article ,
why not? It's just a (unchecked) string of bits.
Its not like that information was used for anything important, like
_billing_ -- i.e., inter-carrier settlements.
What issue(s) do you see? Not worried about having to stand on your
head to read ID info from the other hemisphere are you? *GRIN*

Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
Yes. I get CLID on calls to and from the UK all the time.
R's,
John

[TELECOM] Phones in prisons
From:
[link]
Double killer caught using mobile phones in Loddon Prison in central
Victoria
A DOUBLE killer with a history of jail escapes and his murderer mate have
been caught using mobile telephones in an alarming jail security breach.

Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
In article ,
India: "yes", from direct experience -- don't know how deep the
penetration is to more rural areas, though. China: no hard knowledge
-- I _expect_ there is SS7 at least to the border; open question about
penetration, internally.
In actuality, "less developed" areas, that _have_ phone service, are

[telecom] Walmart changing phone system after abuse
For decades, many businesses have had public address systems
integrated with their telephone network. An extension could dial a
special code and then be connected to the P.A. This was often used,
among other functions, to page managers. (This capability existed
long before Divesture, and apparently a rare example of where Bell

[telecom] Enforcing state telecom law
They are not going to be able to incarcerate anyone for violating this
law, but if someone wants to go to the trouble (and expense) of
pushing things on behalf of the recipients, the violation of the law,
if proved, could also be used as part of a civil suit against the
malefactors, who will have to provide a means for the recipient to

Re: Waiting for Verizon [TELECOM]
In Message-ID <9131e.79352b52.38d42...@aol.c om>, Wes Leatherock asks:
Yes it does. As I'm sure you know, it was a subsidiary of Western
Union that owned conduits below the streets of New York. It was later
bought by MCI, which is now merged into Verizon. The company itself
still exists. Its website is [link], and

Re: Power outages and batteries [Telecom]
In article ,
If you'd like a look at the system referred to above (which was
installed in Oct 2008), and some related information:
<[link]> [1.3 MB]

[prepared for a local meeting on residential solar power]


Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
While it is true that that the efforts of a single state won't help
that much, it is an important first step. Hopefully other states and
the FCC or Congress will follow suit.
As to the technology, I'm no expert, but it seems to me if that
switches can support things like number portability they can

Re: [telecom] Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
Will spoofed SS7 attributes like that cross country phone network
boundaries?
I can quite understand CID inside a network with some controlled
boundaries, but international as well?

Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
Not really, no. They are designed for a quick jolt of huge current and
then lots of quiet time. It's like using a sprinter for a marathon.
For recovery purposes, you use deep cycle batteries. *

Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
A VRAD is an outside plant item that is used to operate the fiber part
of AT&T's new broadband offering, which is called uverse. *

Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
No, not at all.
For one thing, service conditions varied in different places. I
suspect large biulding basement distribution panels were generally
'cleaner' in certain cities than in others due to the various issues
outlined about the service crisis. A phone co that hired unskilled
labor and then places them under time pressure will not get the same

I Need to Vent. Hello, Facebook.
I Need to Vent. Hello, Facebook.
By DOUGLAS QUENQUA
March 17, 2010
WHAT is the sound of an awkward silence on Facebook? If you have to
ask, then you probably don't have friends like James Gower and Ashley
Andrews, high school sweethearts from Spring, Tex., who are both 22
and engaged to be married this May.

Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
Unfortunately that was true for several places in NYC and other urban
areas. Also, they needed to protect the late night operators coming
in at midnight, still had quite a few in the 1970s. The trucks of
repairmen and installers would get broken into and stuff stolen.
Those guards and vandalism added to the cost of telephone service,

Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
Is there an SS7 compatible data channel between India or China to the
U.S. that can carry the CPIN message?
Second question: Do the U.S. gateway switches send the CPIN message to
foreign countries (other than Canada, which is not really foreign from a
telephony standpoint)?

RE: Waiting for Verizon [Telecom]
> >>
> >>Someone please help out an old CO Tech, and tell me what a "vrad" is
> >>and what "uverse" is. Please.
> >
> >Hi Bill,
> >
> >In short U-verse is one of AT&T uses to sell DSL/TV services using
> >Fiber. The VRAD (Video Ready Access Device) equipment does the actual
> >termination of the fiber trunks. They are big bulky boxes that AT&T

[telecom] Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal [Telecom]
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Steven wrot
e:
Simple. They aren't. This is yet another example of a useless piece of
legislation pushed through because the people demand they "do
something". I wonder how many in the state capitol even understood the
technology they were attempting to regulate?

Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
In a message dated 3/18/2010 11:45:51 AM Central Daylight Time,

Does the Empire City Subway Company still exist?

Wes Leatherock
wesr...@aol.com
wleat...@yahoo.com


Re: Waiting for Verizon.. [telecom]
"Fred Atkinson"
wrote:
Measured DC current (12V) on my FIOS box is .48 Amp. It rises
to .57 A when off-hook. The backup battery is 7.2 AH, and the
installer told me it's supposed to give around 12 hours of
backup. Of course, that's assuming the battery is kept


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